For chocolate bars and stuff like KitKats I can't think that I've hardly ever seen them use HFCS instead of sugar. Maybe in ones with a more liquid component. Like, I'm pretty sure even the lowly standard Hershey bar uses sugar.
Yes, I wasn't referring specifically to japanese kitkats - I don't know what's in them, been a couple years. But the use of palm oil has become pretty pervasive and (maybe it's placebo effect) the flavour has declined.
That's pretty much true of most overseas candies and chocolates. Some of the best chocolates from Europe use cocoa butter and real sugar. Not Processed Cocoa Powder, HFCS, additives, colorings, preservatives, and then tempered with plastic.
Costco doesn’t sell caseloads of Cocacola shipped all the way from Mexico to the north east because it’s “hipster bullshit.”
I’m in Europe right now and Coke tastes way better, and doesn’t leave a mild bad feeling after drinking it like it does in the US.
There is a significant chemical difference between sugar and HFCS. For one, the molecules in sugar are disaccharides while in HFCS they are free. High Fructose CS also has more fructose, which is the worst type of sugar. There’s a Wikipedia page I’ve been trying to find again for years, but basically fructose is multiple times more reactive in your blood than glucose and creates nasties when it reacts with other things you eat, namely fats.
> Costco doesn’t sell caseloads of Cocacola shipped all the way from Mexico to the north east because it’s “hipster bullshit.”
Costco sells a lot of good stuff but they also sell plenty of stuff because it is hipster bullshit. Case in point.
> There is a significant chemical difference between sugar and HFCS. For one, the molecules in sugar are disaccharides while in HFCS they are free.
And those molecules are enzymatically broken down to monosaccharides early on in your GI tract, long before it ever makes into your blood.
Sucrose is never absorbed into your bloodstream.
> but basically fructose is multiple times more reactive in your blood than glucose and creates nasties when it reacts with other things you eat, namely fats.
Yes and sucrose is 50/50 glucose and fructose and this dissociation occurs long before anything about the bloodstream enters the picture it happens right in the intestines mixing with all the other fatty Mexican and European garbage you’re eating.
All the bad shit you think happens with fructose will occur with “real” sugar consumption. So your reply or Wikipedia article would make no sense in this context hipster.
Being downvoted by the HN moron brigade (and I’m more referring to the parallel comment rather than mine) doesn’t change any simple scientific and physiologic facts.
By your logic eating sugar is the same as eating brown rice, since they’re both broken down before going into your blood. Sugar isn’t healthy, but HFCS is even worse, with measurably higher glycemic index. And as mentioned, it has more fructose (5%.)
“Compared with sucrose, HFCS leads to greater fructose systemic exposure and significantly different acute metabolic effects.”
No that is not by my logic, that is something you’re making up, I never brought up any completely different foods. Rice and refined sugar products are not the same. Try again.
Again because you are obviously slow (too much sugar?): sugar (like HFCS) is a refined product, it will have similar glycemic index to HFCS. The enzymatic breakdown of sucrose is fast enough not to matter.
Rice is not, stop muddying the waters with irrelevant bullshit.
There is no evidence that the 5% difference in fructose content between usual HFCS and sucrose is of any consequence for health outcomes.
Costco selling caseloads is a pretty strong argument that it might be hipster bullshit given Costco’s market demographics.
IIRC there have been a few studies on the Coca Cola and the biggest thing is being told it’s Mexican coke and having it be in a cold glass bottle - real sugar coke in a can or glass ranked lower than HFCS coke in a glass bottle and misidentified.
Of course the cognoscenti know that the real deal is Coke in returnable bottles that are probably older than you are. No retornable is export shit.
I hadn’t heard about this origin story of Japanese KitKat before and looked it up.
Kitto katsu! means "you will surely win" or "you will surely succeed".
So it is given as tokens for success in exams and the like.
Katsu for winning/succeeding also can be seen in Tonkatsu = pork cutlet (katsu is the Japanese "shortening" of cutlet), which is also offered as a success token.
It's a reduced sugar bitter dark chocolate kitkat that they know kids won't like. Hence "Otona No Amasa" or "sweetness for adults" marketing. They have a bunch of flavors under that subbrand.
KitKat globally is run by Nestle.
That's one reason why.
The second is that in Japan Kit Kat sounds like "good luck" which is why they became popular, and two, why we see such regional variation.
(I have 4 Japanese flavors in my NYC fridge right now -- Sweet Potato, Adult Sweetness, Wheat, and Caramel Pudding (which you bake!)