lisp to me is (1) the language itself is a lists of lists (2) defmacro lets you ...

		socalgal2 4 days ago \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Patterns.dev lisp to me is (1) the language itself is a lists of lists (2) defmacro lets you manipulate those lists of list at compile time. JS doesn't this do either of these at all AFAICT and so is absolutely nothing like lisp. Most lisp programs are about writing DSLs using defmacro. What's the similarity to lisp except that both are programming languages?

Let me ask you instead, do you consider there to exist any Lisp which has no compiler?