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> I overdrafted the account to the max ($500) and left them the bill

I think theft is a poor answer - although most society accepts your rationalisation when dealing with government or big business.

Even worse is that you can't know what it may cost you in the future. My friend couldn't open a business account the other day. After many phone calls he was lucky enough to find someone that told him it was because he left that bank with an account $67 overdrawn when he was younger. That's in New Zealand: I strongly suspect he never would have found out the reason he was denied in many countries[1]. His only recourse was to use a more expensive provider (maybe $600 per year).

Please don't assume I am tolerant of abuse. I vindictively avoid some brands (and even all products from some countries).

I just often judge that my changing to a different service has costs I would rather avoid so I stick with a known evil (I'm good at finding workarounds for many niggles).

I also accept annoying papercuts because I believe all services have imperfection and flaws. Too many people count costs without balance.

What is this perfect bank you have discovered without papercuts?

[1] https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/debanking-and-debunki...



> I think theft is a poor answer

Theft? HA! Nope, they attempted to rob me, on multiple levels. Categorically refused.

> Even worse is that you can't know what it may cost you in the future. My friend couldn't open a business account the other day. After many phone calls he was lucky enough to find someone that told him it was because he left a bank account $67 overdrawn when he was younger.

Oh no! How will I ever conduct business without the government or bank's permission? I guess the only alternative is slavery to some giant corporation, or death! What should I do?

As an American, I would probably like to consult with Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Smedley Butler, Lysander Spooner, Mark Twain, etc and get their thoughts on this matter.

While looking something up just now, this old saved quote from years back popped right into view. Couldn't have said it better myself:

  "Why work at all? Just live off the system. The aristocrats do it lavishly. The welfare rats do it slovenly. Both know that working for an 'honest dollar' in this empire of lies is for suckers. This is why they set up artificial barriers of entry such as needing a 'college degree' for so many jobs so you have to wade through all that propaganda bullshit they spew these days. It's also why they have to make sure property prices stay high to keep the cheese dangling in front of the mouse. The system is designed to keep you churning the wheel while the others sit back, relax, and enjoy a life of leisure at your expense."
> That's in New Zealand

Ah! Found a serious problem. Not the problem, mind you, but a problem. There's a reason the self-described "elites" like to hole up in that place.

(It would be a shame if they never emerged from those holes. What would the world do without their 'leadership'?)

> I strongly suspect he never would have found out the reason in many countries.

Yes, I agree, there are many shithole countries in the world. I live in one, too. One learns to adapt.

> His only recourse was to use a more expensive provider (maybe $600 per year).

Yes, this corrupt country tried to screw me in a similar type of way, years back. I refused to play ball and just did what I wanted instead, very carefully and quietly. Now that problem is permanently resolved, for a fraction of what it would have otherwise cost.

> Please don't assume I am tolerant of abuse. I vindictively avoid some brands (and even all products from some countries).

One time, I went to the local Wal-Mart a couple days before Christmas. I parked at the back of the lot as the place was packed full. No problem, I don't mind walking. But then imagine my displeasure to observe that some complete asshole in a giant lifted pickup truck has double parked near the front of the lot.

That guy was way more important than anyone, in his own mind, clearly. Someone just had to educate him about how so very wrong he was. The job fell to me, as I was the closest warrior at hand.

So I sent a shopping cart sailing at warp 11 into his truck. ("Engage!") It just so happened to impact right on the corner of the cab, behind the door (the worst spot possible--thanks, God), and fucked it all up. Mission Accomplished. I returned home and celebrated.

I know of another funny incident where a similar type of person was similarly unimpressed by some douchebag in a Maserati (this is hillbilly country, home of Chevys and Fords) who likewise felt entitled to take up two parking spots on a busy main street where parking was limited. In this case the guy dumped a tractor bucket load of wet hay into his open convertible top.

The "victim" of that incident was raging on Facebook, offering a reward for whoever turned the guy in, etc, but everyone was just laughing at the SOB.

You'd be surprised what you can get away with, when everyone around you is quietly wishing somebody would do just that thing.


Excellent read please tell me more about your novel approaches to deal with daily life by breaking the law with theft and property damage.


Sorry, you're thoroughly confused. It is not theft to steal from a thief. It's called "justice."

I realize this is a radical concept for your society, which at this moment is thoroughly unjust. Familiarize yourself with this concept now, as it will come up later on the test.

No wonder you keep getting robbed and fucked over all the time. You think it's somehow morally wrong to strike back! It's like you were born and bred to be a victim.

This also explains why so many others get victimized while you stand by and watch idly. Because you think there's nothing wrong with your fellow man getting fucked over!

I could explain more, but it would be useless, as your confusion is at this time far too thick and heavy to be dispelled by just one guy like me. What you're gonna need is somebody like me in your local area to help educate you.

My recommendation is to just double park your big ass honkin truck or Maserati somewhere, then just watch and see what happens. Eventually, you will reach enlightenment.


Dont give up on me! I too am eager to learn! Change the error of my ways please! I demand more of your thoughts regarding how to contend with daily life.

I admit, I went a bit through your post history, cause you're interesting, if unhinged.

First off, you make me think of an awakened and fully actualized version of Luke Smith.

So you're like, a hardcore American Libertarian? The no phone thing is incredibly based, and personally I think smashing a shopping cart into some asshole's truck is both hilarious and just. I do similar when I cone illegally parked cars.

So why libertarian and not anarchist? You seem to appreciate direct action. You seem to have opposition to all forms of oppression be they coming from the government or a bank or a corporation, you're willing to make what some would consider huge personal sacrifice to stand for your values. Is it an inherent distaste of leftist thought? If you are libertarian, that word was born in the most far left circles possible. It still is a synonym for "anarchist" in most places in the world.

I'm not trying to get your goat here. I like talking to people with completely different ideologies than me. Keeps me on my toes, prevents fossilization.


Arbitrarily redefining words so that you can make an otherwise fallacious argument is called equivocation. Ends do not always justify means.



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